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Old September 2nd, 2003, 09:11 PM   #1
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WhO agrees with gay marriages?

*Before I start, this is all my opinion* ..sorry if i insult anyone.

I personally think homosexual people should be able 2 get married or be together. WHATEVER MAKES THEM HAPPY!!

but, i also understand...the condriction im about to make
i dont agree with brother and sister getting married..thats just weird (in my mind)...

BUT I AGREE WITH --v
(1)guy & guy getiing marred or (2) girl & girl getting married

I know, im in the wrong...but i wanna hear other ppls views on this,

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p.s PLZ, dunt come back at me with hate posts saying "how can u agree with one, but not the other" THE ANSWER IS..i dunt know how i can, i jus can! thas my mind?! it works in weird ways!
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Old September 2nd, 2003, 09:16 PM   #2
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anything as consentual (sp?) as marrage shouldn't have any restrictions ... thats just bullshit. a couple can't marry and have a life together because it makes certian uptight individuals uncomfortable? kind of a sad state of affairs when that happens.

though small steps are better than none.
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Old September 3rd, 2003, 12:35 AM   #3
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i guess i am out of the loop? siblings want to get married now?
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Old September 3rd, 2003, 05:47 PM   #4
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^ what are you talking about hun? sorry, i jusT dont get it?
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Old September 3rd, 2003, 06:01 PM   #5
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Nevermind gay marriages... I don't even agree with straight marriages
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Old September 3rd, 2003, 09:13 PM   #6
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I agree with xRaVeRx and tekcajder. I think if you love someone (whatever race, creed, religion, sex, etc.) and it's something that's right for you, then go for it get hitched!
People may argue that it's not right....or it's not the norm...blah blah blah....but you know what? A lot of things have become not the norm over the decades....I dont' see what the harm is. I dunno....maybe i'm just not seeing the problem with that, personally I dont' think there really is one. Basically......whatever floats your boat!

*also....this is totally my opinion....so i'm not trying to insult or offend anyone either! If I do, then I apologize!*
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Old September 3rd, 2003, 10:17 PM   #7
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Re: WhO agrees with gay marriages?

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but, i also understand...the condriction im about to make
i dont agree with brother and sister getting married..thats just weird (in my mind)...

you didn't understand me? well i didn't understand this!
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Old September 4th, 2003, 07:47 PM   #8
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i think that anyone regardless of who they are, what race, what sex, what background should be able to get married. I believe its only a matter of time before they let gay people get married. I dont understand whats so bad about a gay marrige, as long as 2 PEOPLE love each other than it shouldnt matter. I think the pope needs to rethink his ideas, along with bush (i refuse to say president).
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Old September 6th, 2003, 03:18 PM   #9
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I'm stepping into the deep end here.. and I'm very sorry cause this will offend some people.. Such a touchy subject!! *SORRY*


Two people of the same sex, might not be up my ally, I mean I think it's not right, however I don't feel the church/govt, should have any say in a couple getting together.

However, and this is the kicker, I strongly oppose gay couples from adoption. I feel raising kids in that manner will only ensure they themselves grow up to be gay, and I don't feel that is right.

Two guys can't make a baby, and two girls can't make a baby. Therefore you should have no baby. It's harsh, I'm sorry.
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Old September 7th, 2003, 01:07 AM   #10
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^ no, of cousre not..your just expressing your viewZ on the subject
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Old September 7th, 2003, 01:48 AM   #11
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who wouldnt agree with gay marriage?

seriously...what does it matter to you if two people of the same sex get married or not?

love is love, no matter which way it happens.

the bible is outdated. i am a very religious person, but i just dont think that everything in the bible applies to the world today.


(p.s. im a bit tipsy. plz 2 ignore! )
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Old September 8th, 2003, 02:29 AM   #12
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Each to their own, that's my opinion..... does it matter what other people get up to???

xphox, I've got to agree with you on that point about adoption...It's harsh but it's a fact.
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Old September 8th, 2003, 05:57 AM   #13
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Marriage in terms of civil union cannot be prevented from being extended to any two (or 3 or 4) people who desire it, because doing so has no legal basis - only a religious base, which violates the seperation of church and state clause.

Church marriages may be extended to whomever the church decides to extend them to.
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Old September 9th, 2003, 08:12 PM   #14
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I just think that the phrase "Live and let live" is great, because there are so many different people in the world....with so many different opinions and walks of life. People who are Gay and are together don't bother me. I just don't feel like it's a big deal. If they are decent and good people, I don't think the Church should have any kind of say.

Besides the people who are really religious, I feel that in this day and age, people actually get married in a church because it's the traditional/oldfashioned/ timely thing to do. My solution for those who want to be married but are going "against the church"......don't get married in a church!

And I think that just because two people who are in love and have great lives together (therefore making the world a better place...in a sense) and are the same sex shouldn't be denied the right to be married. For the longest time (back in the day) it was wrong to have interracial marriages/couples....but it's a different day today, and it may be an issue still to some, but it's not as nearly as big an issue publicly as it used to be. It's accepted. (that was just an example).

Basically, If you have a problem with it, (and i'm not directing this to anyone in this thread...I really enjoyed reading what everyone had to say ) then just let it go. If there is no harm done, then what's the point in wasting your time whining about it when in the end, everyone can be happy?
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Old September 11th, 2003, 12:43 AM   #15
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Old September 11th, 2003, 04:35 AM   #16
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I agree with seizure about being against any kind of marraige.

For one thing tho, if same sex marriages were allowed, that would be against the bible. Now I am under the impression that the bible is Gods words. If god made the bible a long time ago, and its being updated by PEOPLE now adais. How is that a good religion? its not even what god said. The people who fallow the religion might as well be bowing down to a MAN, rather than a God.



I kinda think marriage changes a lot of things, even just saying between 2 people " we are exclusive " Changes things extermely! Thats why I am slowlying moving out of that kind of lifestyle.

" marriage should remain a union only between a man and a woman with the preferred aim of having children."
^^^^^^^^^^^^That was said in the article that seizure posted. I really dont know why people want to get married anymore, it might as well be a more extreme boyfriend/girlfriend thing cuzz it certinaly doesnt assure LIFE COMMITMENT! as it sais it does.


anyway........*deep breath* there yah go.
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Old September 11th, 2003, 08:11 AM   #17
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I dunno about you freaks, but I sure don't need a piece of paper telling me whom I love and how much I love them.
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Old September 11th, 2003, 12:40 PM   #18
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^^ Fair Enough

But some people (straight or Gay) do want that piece of paper......why? who knows.....personal preference.......which is what it is all about. Choice. If you don't want to get married don't, if you do, you should be able to (unless there are other roadblocks). It also depends on what religion people are or how they view it.

The article did make a good point about same-sex marriages leading to incest.....if two men (or women) can be married, why can't a brother or sister? They should have choice right? However, personally I feel the two issues are quite seperate. Brother and Sister are from the same family. Two gay lovers....are not. In regards to having choice (say a brother and sister want to get married because they want to) I feel that incest is in a way wrong because (in my eyes) they are from the same family, it's DNA/repopulation/human nature issue that goes deeper and is different altogether. (That's my opinion )
Also, a brother and sister can have children.....same sex couples cannot. Allowing for intrafamily marriages will cause bigger issues when it comes to repopulation and so forth (and more fucked up people...."my daddy is my uncle!" etc.,)
Same sex relationships (marriage or not) share the exact same traits, feeling and emotion as a straight coupled relationship. So can intrafamily relationships, but's it's more of a techinical issure there.

However...like the same sex marriages....if a brother and sister (or otherwise) want to get married.....again, it doesn't affect me personally...that's they're life. But I feel that same-sex marriages isn't that huge of a deal.....but incest I think is a lot different and I have different view on that.
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Old September 14th, 2003, 01:02 AM   #19
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I totally agree with same sex marriages an i am so glad that it has been approved in ontairio(a bishop said that Chretien was going to hell for letting it happen *rolls eyes*). I think that this is more on the level of a person's basic rights and freedoms. A person should be able to love whoever they want to love, no matter who they are.

People where also talking about incest, well in my opinion that is a different issue because the children that are produced from that can be serieously messed up...just look at the british royals...lol ok that was mean but i mean really...that is where hemophelia(sp?) came from(a desiese where a persons blood won't clot, meaning that they could bleed to death from a paper cut). The royal family inbred repetedly and thats how the desiese developed.

someone mentioned above that, two gay parents will end up making their adopted child gay, i dont think that this is acurate because i dont think that homosexuality is a choice that people make, i mean who would choose to be one of the most disliked groups of people in todays society.

this is just what i think, and everyone is free to think what they wish, so if I've offended anyone with anything I've just said i do appologize most sincerly.
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Old September 14th, 2003, 01:50 AM   #20
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WHOA who said kids raised with homosexual parents would end up gay??!?!?!??!


WRONG
dead wrong.


plenty of children raised by STRAIGHT parents are gay.

boys raised by their mother only are not guaranteed to be gay
nor are boys raised just by their father for that matter

same goes for girls
girls raised by their father, while sometimes are more man-like than girls who are raised with a mother, it doesnt guarantee that they will become lesbian.

i dont know who comes up with this "children raised by homosexual parents will only become homosexual!" crap.
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Old September 14th, 2003, 02:07 PM   #21
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Quote:
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WHOA who said kids raised with homosexual parents would end up gay??!?!?!??!


WRONG
dead wrong.


plenty of children raised by STRAIGHT parents are gay.

boys raised by their mother only are not guaranteed to be gay
nor are boys raised just by their father for that matter

same goes for girls
girls raised by their father, while sometimes are more man-like than girls who are raised with a mother, it doesnt guarantee that they will become lesbian.

i dont know who comes up with this "children raised by homosexual parents will only become homosexual!" crap.

^^100% AGREE WITH THAT!! well said!!
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Old September 14th, 2003, 02:43 PM   #22
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i don't see nothing wrong with it
and my girlfriend was raised by two gay people
and i know for sure see isn't
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Old September 15th, 2003, 08:16 PM   #23
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I agree....if the child is loved and taught the proper morals and values it needs to become a decent human being and to get by in life, then who cares what the sex of the parents are?? I dont' think it really affects the way they are raised whatsoever. I have a friend who's mother became gay after a divorce and he's is one of the most decent human beings i have ever met...and certainly not gay...cause he is also in a long term relationship with my other good friend (whose a chick btw!) So I totally agree with Applefaerie on that note.
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Quote:
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I totally agree with same sex marriages an i am so glad that it has been approved in ontairio(a bishop said that Chretien was going to hell for letting it happen *rolls eyes*). I think that this is more on the level of a person's basic rights and freedoms. A person should be able to love whoever they want to love, no matter who they are.

People where also talking about incest, well in my opinion that is a different issue because the children that are produced from that can be serieously messed up...just look at the british royals...lol ok that was mean but i mean really...that is where hemophelia(sp?) came from(a desiese where a persons blood won't clot, meaning that they could bleed to death from a paper cut). The royal family inbred repetedly and thats how the desiese developed.

someone mentioned above that, two gay parents will end up making their adopted child gay, i dont think that this is acurate because i dont think that homosexuality is a choice that people make, i mean who would choose to be one of the most disliked groups of people in todays society.

this is just what i think, and everyone is free to think what they wish, so if I've offended anyone with anything I've just said i do appologize most sincerly.
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