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Old June 7th, 2004, 04:42 PM   #26
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Holy shit... I just read that over again. What the HELL does security have to do with that?? According to the post, the father should want to kill the friends of this girl!! Holy flipping hell!!! He's just a moron!!!
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According to the family member's account, the friends had MDMA, commonly known as ecstasy. They took the capsules shortly after arriving at the after-hours club. Mahoney soon began to feel unwell, so one friend took her off the dance floor, finding a corner in which to "chill out."

I'd say he should be out to get these friends. If they knew the security was tight at the after hours place, they would have just taken the capsules before they went in. :: scratches his head :: Oh well... I guess he's got his reasons somewhere...

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Old June 7th, 2004, 05:51 PM   #27
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^exactly...

"hey guys the clubs right around the corner.. lets drop here before we go in"... then wat dad? .. wat could security possibly have done to prevent that... parents shouldn't be so quick to judge other people.. its the individuals choice ... sad but true
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Old June 7th, 2004, 06:19 PM   #28
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^^ Exactly. The only way that father would have prevented his kid from dying is to have gone around the whole night with her holding her hand. Or atleast educated her in the effects of her drug of choice! Like... shit... bad shit would NOT have happened, if those kids knew the first thing about what was going on.

Judging by the fact that they got into a bar, I can safely say she wasn't a minor. Going to the hospital would NOT have had to involve parents. It's just ignorance and stupidity.

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Old June 7th, 2004, 06:32 PM   #29
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fake ids hunny fake ids
if she had one of thouse she could go anywhere

and i do alot of shit thats bad for me but i just dont give a shit
and really the dad is just venting out and greiving his daughters death and trying to blame people

someday he will exept the fact that it wasent anyone fault his daughter died but her own
ive had my own trouble with drugs and it was my fault
its youre own choice to put drugs into youre body you do that at youre own risk
many people take these chances
she just obviously wasent lucky and thats no ones fault but her own
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Old June 7th, 2004, 07:36 PM   #30
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Still, either way, if she's older than 16, which I'd assume she is, she doesn't need to worry about that stuff. If they were driving, chances are a majority of them were atleast 16 or 17

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Old June 7th, 2004, 08:07 PM   #31
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^^ Exactly. The only way that father would have prevented his kid from dying is to have gone around the whole night with her holding her hand. Or atleast educated her in the effects of her drug of choice! Like... shit... bad shit would NOT have happened, if those kids knew the first thing about what was going on.

Judging by the fact that they got into a bar, I can safely say she wasn't a minor. Going to the hospital would NOT have had to involve parents. It's just ignorance and stupidity.

Or he could have not let her go in the first place.
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if she had one of thouse she could go anywhere

What the hell does age have to do with anything? It wasn't a 19+ event to begin with. And even so, she was 19.
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Old June 7th, 2004, 11:49 PM   #32
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GRr that bothers me. I probably said this before but like.. security has no way of getting to everyones drugs no matter what.

you can hide that shit everywhere.. no matter what theres some way of getting it to people

And like.. people just need to know what theyre doing and need to be able to take the risks of having their kids die from drugs at a rave i guess
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Old June 7th, 2004, 11:55 PM   #33
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^^^^Well, it started out saying she went to the bar for a few drinks with her friend.

:: gasps ::

You're not... illiterate, are you?? j/k

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Old June 10th, 2004, 01:22 PM   #34
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This is so stupid...ofcourse security cant do shit, parents cant do shit. If kids plan on doing something they are gonna do it no matter who makes an attempt to stop them. You all know how true this is.
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Old June 10th, 2004, 01:45 PM   #35
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im not going to take some fucking unknown chemical unless i know EXACTLY what it is what it does what is in it blah blah

and security wont do shit
if security is tight people will just take their drugs before they go into the party or line up
its not like they can not let you in cuz youre high its not their problem anymore they can do anything about it

but medics is good shit yo!
that makes me feel ALOT more safe
secuirty guards are fucking assholes medics are nice doctors that save people i love the fact that theres poeple that can help you right away if you need it
especially in a place where there are alot of drug users
and we all know there are dont deny it



i find it highly unlikely that you know what is in a pill you buy at a party.

its alot easier to just quit pills in general.

this girl was a fucking moron, i bet she died from dehydration. her friends didn't seem to mention the drinking of any water.

fucking etards. god. im not sorry for the girl. she died its her own fault. too bad the family are also retards and are trying to spread the blame
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Old June 10th, 2004, 01:49 PM   #36
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i find it highly unlikely that you know what is in a pill you buy at a party.

its alot easier to just quit pills in general.

this girl was a fucking moron, i bet she died from dehydration. her friends didn't seem to mention the drinking of any water.

fucking etards. god. im not sorry for the girl. she died its her own fault. too bad the family are also retards and are trying to spread the blame


LOL yes because everyone who likes to pop pills at raves is an e-tard....also if she was an e-tard she would do enough Eto know to drink water. She would also probably have been smarter about her doings. She was probably a pill newbie and just bought off anyone...
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Old June 10th, 2004, 01:55 PM   #37
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LOL yes because everyone who likes to pop pills at raves is an e-tard....also if she was an e-tard she would do enough Eto know to drink water. She would also probably have been smarter about her doings. She was probably a pill newbie and just bought off anyone...

imo, anyone who does pills is an etard.
first time or no.

i used to be one. but i didn't like being a fucking lame ass raver. so i stopped.

the point is. etards are fuckwads. no questions asked
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Old June 10th, 2004, 03:17 PM   #38
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im not going to take some fucking unknown chemical unless i know EXACTLY what it is what it does what is in it blah blah


Where did you get your pill-testing kit?
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Old June 10th, 2004, 03:24 PM   #39
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imo, anyone who does pills is an etard.
first time or no.

i used to be one. but i didn't like being a fucking lame ass raver. so i stopped.

the point is. etards are fuckwads. no questions asked

Wow that is the most ignorant post I have saw all week.....good for you on being so retarded.
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Old June 11th, 2004, 02:03 AM   #40
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wow this went from being a retarded media story, to a retarded drug argument.

Fact is many different people do drugs, ravers, clubbers, high school students. It doesnt matter where you go. Is it smart, no, but we make our own decisions, and we have to live (or in this case die) with them.
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Old June 11th, 2004, 02:06 AM   #41
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well it sounds really sad about that poor girl,i read somebodys comment on medics,thats proabally a good idea
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Old June 11th, 2004, 03:12 AM   #42
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imo, anyone who does pills is an etard.
first time or no.

i used to be one. but i didn't like being a fucking lame ass raver. so i stopped.

the point is. etards are fuckwads. no questions asked

Yo dude you fucking rule.
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Old June 11th, 2004, 03:17 AM   #43
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LOL yes because everyone who likes to pop pills at raves is an e-tard....also if she was an e-tard she would do enough Eto know to drink water. She would also probably have been smarter about her doings. She was probably a pill newbie and just bought off anyone...

Sweetpea when I did e (way back in the day) I never drank water. Am I dead? er no. Likely there was something else mixed with the pill that threw her into OD mode.

Remember blue buckaroos from winter 1999 anyone? Those things fucked alot of people up.

This is why drugs r bad mmmkay? If you do em power to ya. If you dont power to ya. Just dont bitch about the scene being ruined... because drugs are what ruined the scene before.

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Old June 11th, 2004, 04:57 PM   #44
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Old June 11th, 2004, 07:22 PM   #45
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im not going to take some fucking unknown chemical unless i know EXACTLY what it is what it does what is in it
so with this being said, i would hope that you never take any drugs whatsoever unless you make them yourself right? In which case you're admitting to the production of illegal substances. You NEVER know whats in it. Even if you know the dealer. You're nieve to think you know whats in any type of pill.

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its not like they can not let you in cuz youre high its not their problem anymore they can do anything about it
R.O.A.R. - right of admission refusal.
they can deny entry for whatever reason they want.
just like a bar..
they can deny serving you alcohol if you look intoxicated. infact, i believe it's the law to not serve alcohol to a drunk patron.

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secuirty guards are fucking assholes medics are nice doctors that save people i love the fact that theres poeple that can help you right away if you need it
security is there for your protection.
if they werent, there would be hundreds of more problems.
respect security and they will respect you.
not once have I EVER had a problem with security ANYWHERE when i was obeying the rules. The only time i was bugged was when i was smoking in an area i was not supposed to smoke in, and i got a pretty severe warning. But that was my own doing. I understand that. Once again.. respect them, and they will respect you.
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Old June 11th, 2004, 07:27 PM   #46
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fake ids hunny fake ids
if she had one of thouse she could go anywhere
many places are trained to spot fake IDs..
sure.. get a friends ID...
but many places have a swiper now, where all the info is on the magnetic strip, in which case, a manufactured one will not work.
it is STILL the establishments repsonsibility if they let someone in with a fake ID.
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and i do alot of shit thats bad for me but i just dont give a shit
attitudes like this is what is causing the problems.
it's people with attitudes such as yours that are causing the deaths, and the problems. start giving a shit, or frankly, leave. There's not room for attitudes such as yours in this community.

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she just obviously wasent lucky and thats no ones fault but her own
no... she was just dumb and uneducated on such issues.
cardinal rule is not to mix uppers with downers..
alcohol being a downer...
ecstacy being an upper..

bad mix.
especially if she was drunk..
that's just asking for trouble.. period
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Old June 13th, 2004, 11:22 PM   #47
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(DJ Tranzit) What exactly would happen if you took E (an upppper) and drank beer (..downnner)??

Does it depend on how much you take?
Or should people just avoid mixing anything all together?
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Old June 13th, 2004, 11:26 PM   #48
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Yea and one more thing..
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"They have airport security because of terrorists and bombs, which can kill," Ross Holtzhauer told the Star last night. "Likewise, in these clubs, they should have security as tight as that, because people die from these drugs."

Doesn't Hulla have like SUPER crazy security anyways?
obviously it's not working as well cause people can deal whatever drug they want to before going in, and taking drugs before they go in.

I just think they shouldn't have a bar... might be a stupid idea but if drugs are so bad, why isn't drinking?
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I think eliminating a bar would be a BIG problem.

1. Not everyone gets high, so for some, alcohol is their alternative. If there is no bar, you will get a smaller turn-out.

2. It will encourage the drinkers to do drugs cause there is no alcohol. This just increases the drug flow in the place.

3. Some people go to Hullabaloo to socialize and not dance. The 19+ area is great for that.
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Old June 14th, 2004, 06:39 PM   #50
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I think eliminating a bar would be a BIG problem.

1. Not everyone gets high, so for some, alcohol is their alternative. If there is no bar, you will get a smaller turn-out.

2. It will encourage the drinkers to do drugs cause there is no alcohol. This just increases the drug flow in the place.

3. Some people go to Hullabaloo to socialize and not dance. The 19+ area is great for that.


That's true. But still.
Is it illegal to sell alcohol to someone who's already drunk or high?
THey should probably pay more attention to that I guess
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