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July 16th, 2004, 10:04 PM
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Logic would have you believe, large parties= more $$$, which= more $$$ to spend on 2 OR more headliners... Im guessing something changed... hmmm... |
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July 17th, 2004, 03:57 AM
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Well, dude, in all fairness, the rave scene has had a bit of a decline in popularity since it fell out of being a fad. You can host a big party, but that won't always guarantee big audiences. You also have to have huge amounts of capital to throw into a party like that. And that means it becomes a higher risk financially. One screw up with a huge party can hurt many more times financially than a smaller party. I might be wrong, though, too. Just a thought. Back to topic, though. Paul Oakenfold would be neat, but I know that's about as much of a possibility as Santa playing at the Next Hulla. It's all good, though, because I haven't been disappointed by Hulla's lineups yet. PLUR, Chip
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July 17th, 2004, 05:55 AM
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Yes, Frolic likes to play it safer than a catholic virgin school girl
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July 17th, 2004, 07:22 AM
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Hey, who can blame him?? If it was me trying to arrange raves like the Hulla, there would have been no more Hullas a long, long time ago! Cheers to Frolic for doing so well!
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July 17th, 2004, 01:50 PM
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yeah the scene collapsed somewhere in there. I'm the only promoter left from my generation that's still in business. I'm not sure what's with all the cristisism. Promoters lose their shirts week in and week out and never throw another party again. Who does that benefit? |
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July 17th, 2004, 03:09 PM
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That sucks, I just feel sorry for myself I missed when hullas were a larger crowd, cause I wanted to experienece myself... And I think your one of the few left promoters cause well your more mature and have an experience in running your own business before hulla.... |
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July 18th, 2004, 02:01 PM
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i have to say frolic. i do comend you on what you have done and what you are continuing to do. i started listenin to you over 4 years ago and to see what you are still doin today is amazing. i know people around here in the tri-state area have started to lose the edge. ive seen alot of the promotion companies and party throwers around here are dying out and dying out fast, but you are still up and runnin. i also know that there are alot more springin up every other week around here. so i can understand about the scene dying but i also know about the scene comin back. i think in the next year or so there mite be a surge in the scene up there i may be wrong though so dont quote me on that. i think you are doin a great job. laters dj dice 
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July 18th, 2004, 11:19 PM
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Cloudskipepr can't play at Hulla. ; p
And yeah, Frolic has survived and that does say something. Everything good comes to an end though. The scene hasn't been getting smaller, it's just become more mainstream. Dissappearing into clubs and even bars. Where did all the hippies from Woodstock go? ; p Last edited by Toye : July 18th, 2004 at 11:31 PM. |
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July 18th, 2004, 11:24 PM
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Kaos & Ethos btw.
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July 19th, 2004, 06:19 PM
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dougal and gammer sounds good
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July 19th, 2004, 06:43 PM
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Mark eg, if possible???
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July 20th, 2004, 03:58 AM
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UFO!!!
CLSM!! Ham Stompy!! I Love stompy's new stuff!!
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July 20th, 2004, 06:18 AM
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NEWSFLASH The rave scene has gotten smaller (I know because I partied back in the day when it was huge). Hullabaloo use to have like 2000+ people at it. They held one hullabaloo at THE INTERNATIONAL CENTER! Like hello? There use to be huge parties at the CNE (Dose Connected anyone) and various other huge venues. Parties use to be on average 2000 - 3500 people. Of course there were smaller parties but back in the day there were like 6 parties to choose from on any given weekend. Not to mention after hours places like The Pad, Sunshine Waynes & Bassmint. It all went downhill when people started to OD and people started to die, then Mel Lastman came in on his trojan horse to save torontos youth and decided to try to stop all this fun. Banning raves at city owned venues, and enforcing all sorts of crazy rules on promotors like manditory PDO's (pay duty officers for all you non acronym savvy people). Thats what killed the scene. Promotors got scared off, and the only party's that survived were smaller company's. Lifeforce (Dose, Syrous & god the name of the other powerhouse slipps my mind at the moment) ended up buying Turbo and held 19+ events there. But basically everything went pear shaped when the city stepped in and started to police us. The rave scene didnt go mainstream. The club scene has always been there with huge djs (you wouldnt know because you didnt party back then) but places like Industry would bring in huge djs for a 19+ crowd and it wasnt a rave. A Rave is an all ages all night dance event. There's been clubs forever, the rave scene came from the club scene. Birthplace: The Hacienda club in Manchester England. Yet again another mis informed winning post brought to you by the extremely misinformed Toye. Thanks for commin out again champ!
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July 20th, 2004, 06:20 AM
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July 20th, 2004, 06:22 AM
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July 20th, 2004, 12:02 PM
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Subsonic-Chronic
I've never been to a hullabaloo show before, and i've been waiting for Subsonic Chronic to play, but he hasn't in a while, where's he at?
Good line up here, Chris C would make a great addition to this perfect line-up ! I can't even access Subsonic-Chronic's website, what's the deal? 
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July 20th, 2004, 01:39 PM
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he just played for us at the April Hulla, and his set is even included in the Sail Away CD Pack. |
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July 20th, 2004, 03:23 PM
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Endymion!
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July 20th, 2004, 03:23 PM
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July 20th, 2004, 03:29 PM
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yep, that's me, call me the stalker.
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July 20th, 2004, 04:06 PM
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I would have to go with dougal and gammer too,
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July 21st, 2004, 02:18 PM
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molly mush
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July 21st, 2004, 03:45 PM
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sy and unknown ..... you know you want to
*If we didn't try harder - we wouldn't be HARDCORE* just fly to England put them in a burlap sack and drag them to good ol Canada. Rock On!Or at least a nice hardcore set ... dj spock Amy
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July 21st, 2004, 09:26 PM
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Saying that, you have the power to open the eyes of the kids who only own a few h2bh cd's. I kinda of doubt kids won't go if someone they don't immediately recognize someone on the flyer, and besides you're always playing so theres a name they'll know. I realize this is a business, and turning a profit is necessary. But booking the same headliners all the time isn't any better for business. How many people didn't go to the last hulla because they just saw Hixxy? Book someone new and different and you could get a better turn out, while also improving the North American scene.
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July 21st, 2004, 10:43 PM
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I know you mean well, but I wish people would cut me some slack here. It's not like Hulla hasn't featured virtually every name there is in uk hardcore. And there are sooo many other things that go one behind the scenes that make life difficult. For example; now that the party is over I can reveal DJ Sy WAS booked for Funtopia 7. In fact, Storm had spoke to him for me the day he got back from Enchanted and Sy was on board. As time went on we were getting mixed messages from Sy about whether he was going to come. finally it was show time and Sy at that point decided he really didn't want to fly anymore. When I pressed him about it, he almost was agreeable again, but the problem was in the meantime he accepted some bookings in the UK and didn't want to drop them. So that left me without a headliner for our anniversary party. meanwhile, A ton of UK guys were in Australia for a big tour over the month of July and were completely out of the picture. Being that it was our anniversary party I didn't want to have to settle for b-level talent, so Hixxy did me a solid and agreed to come over meanwhile blowing off a bunch of gigs back home (and for more money) to be with us here and come through for me. Anyways, I'm sharing this just to give you some idea of what can go on over the process of putting these shows together. With the exception of Hixxy playing twice for us in 7 months (although that's twice in SIX YEARS also), and that had some extenuating circumstances, we've had a wide and varied selection of the worlds best DJs grace our stage with usually a wait of many years before seeing them again (like previously Breeze - 2 1/2 years, Energy more than 2 years, etc..). Just trust that my objective with every event is to put on the best show I possibly can. When I read complaints about stuff that really are without merit it takes away from my enjoyment of doing this, and I've always said that the day this is no longer fun is the day it's all over. Anyhoo, the next Hulla is booked, it's got someone we haven't seen in some time and I expect it to be an amazing night. |
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