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Old October 31st, 2004, 11:05 AM   #26
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Mike and Pete

only mc's that are on the same playing field...every other mc paired with any of you guys would seem quite weak in comparison...
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Old November 1st, 2004, 05:42 PM   #27
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I disagree... I think I think Ian is easily on the level with both Mike and Pete, both in rhyming and in crowd interaction. Those three EASILY top any other MC I've heard in Hardcore, always remembering that Jumper remains legendary in his own right.

But hey, I'm practicing :P ::
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Old November 1st, 2004, 05:44 PM   #28
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Old November 1st, 2004, 06:08 PM   #29
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Jumper sounds like a 5 year old writes his lyrics.
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Old November 1st, 2004, 06:14 PM   #30
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i like jumper! I know he's not like super rhymes all over the place, but its fun to sing along with him!
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Old November 1st, 2004, 06:32 PM   #31
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How about MC battles all night? Every which way!
4 decks, 2 mixers, 2 MICS!
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Old November 1st, 2004, 06:46 PM   #32
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ok seriously people there are two different types of mcs.
those who freestyle : ie Everybodies Daddy, END
and those who write rhymes and recite: ie Gobstoppa & Jumper

you can't really compare the two. they are very different. both are great in their own right.
For instance I enjoy listening to END mc a set because he surprises me with the witty rhymes he comes up with and makes me laugh.
But I enjoy Jumper just as much because he is like a preacher, preaching the hardcore gospel to us everytime he gets up on stage, encouraging us to preach along with him!
You all know the words to your favorite hardcore songs and love to sing along, well I enjoy reciting the 20/20 rhyme whenever Jumper brings it in. And Jumper's old rhymes may sound a bit childish, but if you listen to his new rhymes they are very political and satirical.

So don't be so quick to judge, although we are all entitled to our opinions.
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Old November 1st, 2004, 06:48 PM   #33
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<3 the 20/20 one
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Old November 1st, 2004, 06:58 PM   #34
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Well said, Jules.

It'd be like saying Frisky is a bad DJ just because he doesn't do insane tricks like No Left Turn. They both rock the socks, but they're very very different styles of DJ.

If everybody sounded the same, the party would suck.



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Old November 1st, 2004, 06:59 PM   #35
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How about MC battles all night? Every which way!
4 decks, 2 mixers, 2 MICS!

I don't think the ravers could handle the insanity.

But that could just be another challenge.

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Old November 1st, 2004, 07:23 PM   #36
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Quote:
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ok seriously people there are two different types of mcs.
those who freestyle : ie Everybodies Daddy, END
and those who write rhymes and recite: ie Gobstoppa & Jumper

you can't really compare the two. they are very different. both are great in their own right.

Precisely. Both styles have their place.

Singing along with Storm's rhymes at Enchanted is one of my favourite memories, I might add.
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Old November 1st, 2004, 08:03 PM   #37
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If everyone sounded like No Left Turn the party would most definitely NOT suck!

Jumper's lyrics might be political but they still sound like crap... they don't flow, they sound really forced, like lines are too long cause he couldn't come up with a better way to say it so he just goes with what sounds bad.
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Old November 1st, 2004, 08:30 PM   #38
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Sometimes thats how we like to rhyme. I don't see you getting up there and MCing now do I?
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Old November 1st, 2004, 10:07 PM   #39
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No, because I'd suck. I wouldn't want me up there any more than I want Kwik and Jumper up there.
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Old November 1st, 2004, 10:26 PM   #40
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Kwik I can agree with.
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Old November 1st, 2004, 11:09 PM   #41
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Everyone's entitled to their opinion... I've had the privelege of performing with Jumper on several occasions and he's pretty much always had a great sense of lyricism and timing, in my opinion, but everyone has off days. Heck, I have days I can't remember at all. Weeks, even.

And Kwik's managed to pull together some decent sets too, let's not get harsh. Hardcore is a tough genre to MC to.
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Old November 2nd, 2004, 12:43 AM   #42
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Exactly... hardcore doesn't lend itself to being MCed to... so why the hell do we need so many MCs, and why can't they shut up for two minutes and let us just listen to the techno? Why can't Kwik just be a verbal connection between the crowd and the DJ without going "inside inside inside inside inside" and "ride ride ride ride ride" and "five five five five five" the whole damn time? Very few hardcore MCs do anything to enhance the music, most range from just being plastered over top of it for no reason (eg Jumper) to getting in the way of it (eg Kwik)
It makes even less sense for those MCs whose voices/accents, manner of speech and lack of enunciation make all of their lyrics basically just a long stream of unintelligible vocal noises...

I don't understand why an awful lot of hardcore mcs are booked at all
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Old November 2nd, 2004, 01:37 AM   #43
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I love you too :P

Seriously though, you're welcome to that opinion and you're not alone.

But when hardcore is well MC'd over (Ian, Mike, Pete, and IMO Jumper) it can DEFINITELY add to the vibe and the event. I still get shivers (the good kind) from Kwik (yes, really) when he says "Where's the whistles, where's the horns, WHERE'S THE NOISE!" during Shooting STar on Frisky's Sail Away CD, and everyoen just blasts the noise out... granted he should have quit while he was ahead, but that REALLY added to an already fantastic song and moment.
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for the record, you're on my good list, timmy
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Old November 2nd, 2004, 12:25 PM   #45
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jules
ok seriously people there are two different types of mcs.
those who freestyle : ie Everybodies Daddy, END
and those who write rhymes and recite: ie Gobstoppa & Jumper

you can't really compare the two. they are very different. both are great in their own right.
For instance I enjoy listening to END mc a set because he surprises me with the witty rhymes he comes up with and makes me laugh.
But I enjoy Jumper just as much because he is like a preacher, preaching the hardcore gospel to us everytime he gets up on stage, encouraging us to preach along with him!
You all know the words to your favorite hardcore songs and love to sing along, well I enjoy reciting the 20/20 rhyme whenever Jumper brings it in. And Jumper's old rhymes may sound a bit childish, but if you listen to his new rhymes they are very political and satirical.

So don't be so quick to judge, although we are all entitled to our opinions.


Very well said Jules
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Old November 2nd, 2004, 01:11 PM   #46
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the best mcs know that its all about the dj's set and not about them.
if they become self absorbed as "performers" then they don't shut up half of the time when they should and it takes away from the set.
i will also add that i haven't posted my picks for a battle because most of the time I don't enjoy more than one mc on the mic, because with 2 or three people up there, there's even less of a chance to enjoy the music.
personally as a dj I like the mc to rhyme over mixes (as long as they're not coming through my moniter!!!) and over intros and outro's to the track (ie: not where vocals, breakdowns and the intricate parts of the track are)
Jumper knows when to shut it and so does END. Pete can go a bit over board if he's started a rhyme he always has to finish it and that annoys me sometimes. Also I hate not being able to understand what the mc is actually saying.
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Old November 2nd, 2004, 01:25 PM   #47
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All this talk of MCs not knowing when to shut it is becoming just enough to scare me. I'm just a rookie and I don't like...wanna get booed off the stage or something.
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Old November 2nd, 2004, 03:11 PM   #48
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No one would boo u off. They'd just bash u later on the boards .

I like how Ian mc's because i never know what he's gonna say and i think thats what pumps me up the most. But i also like that i can understand Mike & Jumper so at least the lyrics can have some effect on me.
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Old November 2nd, 2004, 03:12 PM   #49
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I will most definitely be at Back N Forth, raving it up for the final hullabaloos, and I accept any challenges to MC if they come my way.

Performing at hulla is fucking wicked.

Enthusiastic crowds are the shit and are hard to come by these days.

When I MC, I feed off of the crowd. If the crowd isn't into it, I'll let the dj do their thing, but if there's a slight chance that some people want to have fun, I'll do my best and try my hardest to make sure that they're having a good time and giving it all they've got. That's my job as an mc and that's the best part about hulla because everyone is having a blast.

I've worked very hard for the past 4 years perfecting my craft and learning how to blend in with the music and not sound like I'm ontop of the music. As a dj myself, I know track structure and I know 99% of the tunes that other djs are playing lol so it comes pretty easy. I work the best with dj's that require me to be on my toes and are constantly doing tricks. You will find most of the time when I'm MCing, I'm looking at the dj to see what they're doing so I know when to drop a verse or two. The 3 djs that I work the best with are AC Slater, No Left Turn and Luna-C. I had the pleasure of MCing for Luna-C in Wyoming this past April and it was amazing because we came up with all of these codes as to when I was supposed to speak and when I was supposed to keep quiet and it turned out wicked and the set was flawless.

If I were to MC at hulla again it would be sick and thanks for everyones support.

Anyways I can't wait until Dec. 11th!!!!

Happy Hullabaloo!

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Old November 2nd, 2004, 03:13 PM   #50
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You've just got to know the tracks you're MCing to, the DJ you're working with, and the crowd you're playing to.

Jules said she likes when MC's flow over her mix, other DJ's will turn off the mic if you MC over a mix.

I do agree that two MC's can be overwhelming at times, but in the right situation it can be a very good thing. Back to back MC's all night would get overbearing, but one or two sets, especially near the end of the party would be off the hook.

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