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Old November 20th, 2004, 12:26 PM   #26
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As someone who got hit with a $10,000 fine for not having enough fire exits (in addition to $10,000 lawyer fees for my defence in that case), the days of non-club venues are long gone.
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Old November 20th, 2004, 02:01 PM   #27
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we have a really strong underground scene here......
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Old November 20th, 2004, 03:31 PM   #28
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^^ i agree with pointy. finding a willing non club venue in any city thsese days is quite a chalenge. the legal ramifications are just to great. if you approch a club and ask for the use of their venue for the night to play ardcore records they are ok with that they would just being playing some other kind of music that night anyways. a non club venue however. doesn't know what they are getting into. plus raves are well known enough by now to scare someone off when you say yeah we would like to use your space to play really loud hardcore all night for people to dance to.

The phrases "all night" and "all ages" are enough to scare off like 75% of venue owners. Clubs are much more willing to take that plunge than other types of venues, because they have experience with similar events. I totally made up that statistic, by the way.
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Old November 20th, 2004, 04:19 PM   #29
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what jER said

i dont just prefer it to be "ravey"

i see them as two entirely different kinds of events, one which im madly in love with and one which happens to have cool people and techno so it works ok
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Old November 20th, 2004, 05:18 PM   #30
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I guess my philosophy is different, since when/where I started partying the only real difference between clubs and raves was the legality, the hours, and the alcohol. The music, the people, and the architecture was largely the same.
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Old November 21st, 2004, 03:33 PM   #31
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the music and the people are the same but the architecture definitely aint
if im standing in a room where the ceillings are only as high as if it was inside my house, it does wreck the sound and it most definitely wrecks my ears

techno needs space

which is why i like the opera house and hate pulse and turbo
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Old November 25th, 2004, 02:09 AM   #32
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Old November 25th, 2004, 02:17 AM   #33
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if someone could find a field and get a shitload of people to come party it would be nice hahahaahahah
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Old November 25th, 2004, 02:27 AM   #34
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Old November 25th, 2004, 09:36 PM   #35
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find a field? that sounds hard

thats what the 3days are all about man

though typically not FIELDs, per se
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Old November 25th, 2004, 09:38 PM   #36
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find a field? that sounds hard

thats what the 3days are all about man

though typically not FIELDs, per se

you must agree a field would be nice

but yes on the 3 days!
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Old November 26th, 2004, 12:55 PM   #37
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pennsylvania is one big feild just waiting to be raved in
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Old November 26th, 2004, 01:14 PM   #38
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a field = a heatstroke
unless its windy in which case
a field = a whole bunch of chapped lips
(im sure most of you know what im bitching about )
i prefer actual nature and in ontario that doesn't mean fields its means forest
and techno sounds goooood in the woods
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Old November 26th, 2004, 04:31 PM   #39
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pennsylvania is one big feild just waiting to be raved in


as long as you dont get lost in the woods
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Old November 26th, 2004, 07:53 PM   #40
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one time in beaver county someone tried to throw a rave in the woods lets just say konomama was played and a fight broke out.girls got knocked out it was sad.
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Old November 26th, 2004, 09:47 PM   #41
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^^ happy hardcore in the woods does deserve a fistfight... I LOOOOOOOOOOVE happy hardcore, but its just way wrong in the middle of the woods, especially in the hard tech setting i heard it
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Old November 27th, 2004, 09:49 AM   #42
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As someone who got hit with a $10,000 fine for not having enough fire exits (in addition to $10,000 lawyer fees for my defence in that case), the days of non-club venues are long gone.

well i hear that but still
people are still gonna have underground parties man
i am.
and i talk to plenty of promoters who are doing underground parties at unpermitted locations 2 in north america.

but yeah a club-like venue thats permitted is def the way 2 go
but that wont be supplimentive enough to satisfy my underground dreams
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Old November 27th, 2004, 10:00 AM   #43
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we have a really strong underground scene here......
that's word.
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Old November 27th, 2004, 10:08 AM   #44
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a field = a heatstroke
unless its windy in which case
a field = a whole bunch of chapped lips
(im sure most of you know what im bitching about )
i prefer actual nature and in ontario that doesn't mean fields its means forest
and techno sounds goooood in the woods
it does?
thats cool i would think it would help to have so kind of walls to enclose the sound at least a bit
plus at outdoor events soundsclash and the speakers bleed into each other unless the campgrounds are spread out far.
plus what about the graff artists?
for them its like this.
no walls, no show.
whats better than having an underground rave and having dope writers bomb the place propper with beautiful graffiti.
the woods are ok .
but dont be too afriad to find a remote location like a factory to have ur party at/in.
underground parties are good for the promoters too cuz they get a free location and there s no closing time
somebody mention 3 days!
word the fuck up 2 that!
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Old November 27th, 2004, 11:21 AM   #45
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what we need somewhere is a venue like the asylum in springfield, mas (RIP). this place was a night club techincally...but the main room had huge ceilings probably like 20 or more feet tall a side room with hardcore, a back room with dnb and a upstairs room with whatever....very uneffective searchs and brought enough people to bring in crazy lineups now there wasnt too much hardcore there but there was some...frolic knows what im talking about he spun there last year for halloween but then a new mayor came to town and they got caught with fire code issues and the mayor revoked their permits and said he would never allow anything like that again in springfield...oh how i miss the asylum....every few weeks on a sat nite was a new party a big party and most of the time the djs showed up and it didnt get shut down early something thats a rariety in new england/nyc nowadays.....
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Old November 27th, 2004, 12:06 PM   #46
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QUOTE=slektAh]it does?
thats cool i would think it would help to have some kind of walls to enclose the sound at least a bit
& at outdoor events soundsclash and the speakers bleed into each other unless rigs are spread out far.i think.
plus what about the graff artists?
for them its like this.
no walls, no show.
whats better than having an underground rave and having dope writers bomb the place propper with beautiful graffiti.
woods dont have walls or i dunno
the woods are ok .
but dont be too afriad to find a remote location like a factory to have ur party at/in.
.if you are underground promoter n all.
underground parties are good for the promoters too cuz they get a free location and there s no closing time
somebody mention 3 days!
word the fuck up 2 that!
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Old November 27th, 2004, 12:35 PM   #47
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yes. i like what u said psycosis and how are you long time;
seems like everyones agreeing its best to have a great club that has consistant parties at, to realy have the all.
or whatever.
but then you mentioned asylum i think asylum is a very good example of what we were just started to talk about in this thread lol

asylum was raw and bro that shit was pretty damn sizely inside
its was pretty damn big n packed consistantly.
i miss it bad too.
but hey psycosis,
notice all the people who had parties at asylum there STILL have parties Yo!!
but just not at asylum hm,
well i think hulla is great. butyeah
can u imagin if we got asylum back or somewhere else like that?
i mean good lord.
i miss that sh*t.
soo many of You.
someone buy a new club like that yo hehe
how many sq ft of space was the asylum??
id say, 10,000 sq ft i guess.
whatever.
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Old December 21st, 2004, 02:49 AM   #48
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I don't know why canada should complain, i live in ohio, scene is dying quick(hhc scene anyway) I can't remember the last time a hhc dj came through cleveland. I hear that some hhc is coming outta of cinci. but haven't seen anything yet.
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Old February 21st, 2005, 02:26 AM   #49
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Vancouver has a small, but quite strong eclectic hardcore scene. It's not much about happy hardcore, apart from DJ Arius, but more about noisecore, speedcore, deathcore, and other more abrasive forms of hardcore. Several wikkid artists, DJs and promoters involved, often doing free parties out in the bush. I spun at one of them a coupla years back and had a blast. Amazing venue near Whistler BC, great people, the sound and mixing was kinda shit cuz the monitors blew during the first set (I played the second set), and just an amazing party.
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i live in ohio, scene is dying quick(hhc scene anyway) I can't remember the last time a hhc dj came through cleveland. I hear that some hhc is coming outta of cinci. but haven't seen anything yet.

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