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orbz

i'd say its because everyone sits around watching Wife Swap
if there was no tv, i think america would be quite a different place
the majority of bush supporters believe he supports positions that he's publically come out against, the majority believe in things like iraq/WMD ties that his own government's reports have contradicted, all because of the way everything is presented (or not) in the media

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Mrs Frolic

if there was no tv, i think america would be quite a different place

No doubt about that, but I think if anything it would be a *more* backwards place. At least now those poor kids who are being raised in environments like that can see on tv that there *are* different ways to live. Maybe someday they'll have a chance of escaping.

OTOH, I've met people raised in fundamentalist-type environments who are more than happy to continue being fundies as adults... and then *they* raise their kids that way... *sigh*

orbz

the tv is too controlled a medium
i place that hope in the internet

kikster

maybe eventually. but there are still lots of people who don't have internet access. or if they do, the parents control very strictly what their kids can see or do, if they even let them use it at all.

Weaver

^the second i got my own computer, it was porno city!!

and that was awhile ago.

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peachfuzz

hell.. my computer is still porno city..

and i've had one for the past 7 years..

DJ Saiyan

Way to hijack my thread guys.

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peachfuzz

hey man, that's what we're here for..

Weaver

haha, any thread that is still on the same topic by the second page is what i call a "miracle thread".

limey

Okay, back to shane getting kicked out of hulla....

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fREAKYjUNGLIST

awwwN! shane, that was nice of ya bro!
your still awsome in my books!
*heart*
-jEREMY

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I've woken up with bruises on my feet from kicking the wall in my sleep while fighting in a dream (although most of the time kicking the wall hurts enough to wake me up).

I'm sure the security would be a bit understanding if they saw you were off your nut and freaking out or something, and most certainly if you were actually unconcious and flailing.

But I think you'd still know if it happened.

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orbz

security? understanding? i've never heard those words put together before

DNE Productions

True...I've known them to be heavy-handed in the past (security personnel in general), because power-tripping is one of the biggest perks of the job. I know-I've worked event security for a few punk shows and other stuff myself...took great pleasure in making sure people didn't smoke inside the building despite the fact that it was -20 outside. Having a walkie-talkie sure makes you look authoritative.

But there's a big difference between someone getting drunk and belligerent, and someone having a bad trip, or taking something unknowingly, and flailing or going into a hyper-paranoid state. And I think they'd handle that latter situation a little differently most of the time (I've heard of cases where they didn't, with tragic consequences, but I think potential liability could be a strong motivator), subduing the person and getting them into an ambulance, rather than forcibly ejecting them from the premises (with the emphasis on forcibly) as in the former situation.

And you'll find there's a wide range of personalities working in event security. Most of my experience with security at raves in Toronto has been with High Profiles (dunno if they're still at it, but they were the main choice when I was partying there). Some of them were real assholes, and relished the power-tripping the position made possible for them, but some of them were pretty nice. I talked with a few of them at various times, including Shawn Parsons, the manager, and looked at getting a job with them. He and some of the others were decent, and then others were just bullies who graduated from school and needed someone new to bully.

Haven't been to a rave at The Opera House, but been to a Napalm Death concert, a Morbid Angel concert, a DJ Spooky/Ben Neill show, and a one-off club night there, and I have one word for the security there: lax. Barely a search, I could have walked into any of those events with a coupla assault rifles and 20 keys of H, and they never would have known. But they were very helpful when I sprained my knee in the mosh pit at the Morbid Angel concert, got me an ice pack to put on it and helped me up to the closed balcony so I could enjoy the rest of the show.

Saffron

So wait, I haven't heard any of this. Shock the Monkey did you OD? And now you are saying sorry you OD'd? Does this mean your not going to do drugs anymore?

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DynamicHalfDuo

Oh, Texas. :: I often wonder how it is that the most "Christian" state can so ruthlessly endorse wholesale slaughter of anyone different from themselves... a thought I'm sure the rest of the world often applies to the United States in general. At least I'm slowly becoming Canadian ::

Message to the South - upon 150 years of further reflection... we've changed our minds. You can go, after all. ::

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innerspace

haha, so true. nice one timmy.

orbz

^ yeah i've said it before... america lost the civil war


not to us.

chipakapockets

they're lax with me.

The last two hullas, I had pockets loaded full of junk and, after patting me down, they didn't even make me empty my pockets!! hahaha.

PLUR,

Chip

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4real

I got kicked out of Field of Dreams by that very large male African American bouncer for being in the girls washroom. I was walking by and two overly attractive women called me in to hang out and talk. I sat on top of the edge of the sink was in for about five minuits chatting and thinking "oh everything is so perfect at hullabaloo i cannot think of a better place" The girls reassured me that everything was all good and then he came in and was like "you come with me" And gave me the toss. I should have known. I learned that eveining that not every room in the Opera House is as comfortable as the dance floor. AND I SWEAR I WOULD JUMP OVER THE GRAND CANYON IF TWO BEAUTIFUL WOMEN TOLD ME IT WAS OKAY. Okay not that bad but still, God im a sucker!