c3blue

Charlie's fun fact for the day. The LD50 oral dosage of MDMA for a 120 lb. (54.4 kg) rat is 42 lb. (19.04 kg).

What does it all mean?

If you were to take a group of 120 lb rats and feed each of them 42 lbs of pure MDMA (thats 127 pure pills), 50% of them would OD.

I may be wrong on my math, but I dont want to hear about it. Close enough damnit.

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happy1

: hmmm... hamsterdance on x

chipakapockets

That's strange... are you sure?

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CareSieB

i dont think you can actually OVERDOSE on mdma, it would just quit working, there would be no seratonin left for it to produce or whatever. People only die from E when they act like retards and overheat from too much dancing and not enough water, MIXING drugs (never a good idea) or from drinking alcohol with it, (which i suppose would also be mixing drugs)

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astralkid

I think u can overdose on anything... even water, cell combustion

CareSieB

well...ok eventually...you might like blow up, but it would be REALLLLLLLLLLLLY hard

skunkdiggity

yeah he was a heroin addict not an e-tard

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skunkdiggity

I read an article on a police website that said E was once used in couples therapy and proved very effective. Not once did they give an argument on the reason why it was pulled and classified as a Schedule 1 drug (oh, hmm, b/c there ISN'T a good enough one) also the only defense they used on why the drug is dangerous is that PMA story which that was pretty much a secluded incident in Europe and there have been no reports of any PMA pills as of recent (that info comes from DanceSafe). I'm sure most of you are aware of these facts but I wanted to talk about it anyways cuz it pisses me off. I don't know how the government leads ppl on such bullshit facts and most ppl don't even take the time to question them so sad that society is this willing to be mislead so that they don't need to do any further thinking beyond what the mass media spoon feeds them.

chipakapockets

MDMA's being used again in therapy, actually interpersonal therapy now... California is where those tests are goign on, I guess. I think it will proove a very effective addition to interpersonal therapy.

PLUR,

Chip

Psychick

Haha, cos club kids in the 80's certainly never experimented with MDMA

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Ummmm...wow, I guess you don't know much at all about that story then.

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dj mannik

well then as a pot head i suppose that means i've never done e?

CareSieB

i believe in the movie they even TALK about E...it was legal back then remember...

chipakapockets

Er... I meant used experimentally in interpersonal therapy.

PLUR,

Chip

Psychick

Oh, I know

I'm well-versed in drug history.

CareSieB

i would imagine hehe, that comment wasnt really directed at you but more as who your comment was directed at

skunkdiggity

I know they did e silly i'm just saying he didn't kill his drug dealer because of the devastation e caused his life, it was heroin that effed his life up. and do i think e led to his heroin addiction well no i don't at all. just to clear up what i meant

astralkid

I would imagine, crack hoe

Psychick

Yes, becos an interest in medicine and chemistry obviously means I'm also addicted to illicit substances and casual sexual encounters

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Dakota

This article is very bias. And that's a huge no-no in the media world. I mean it's valid, but he should have gotten another side of the story....it should have talked about (for example) the studies done....or could have used an interview with a doctor or physician, etc., that used the drug in studies and the things they found that don't happen while using the drug, that they thought did. I know this post is a little overdue (like 3 months ) but I didn't see it until now.

Everything that was reported I'm sure is true...but there are only two sources for what I think is a very large story (or could have been). blah....too much school in me I think!

I also think it's funny that they are implying that party kids or E users (whether they are regular users or a "two times a year" user) are naive to the downsides and affects of the drug. Obviously they are aware of the downsides or there would be a much larger epidemic then this article reveals.

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skunkdiggity

It's all propaganda, in my opinoin. They fail to mention of course that alcohol kills more people each year than every other drug combined, something like 90,000 people in the U.S. every year alone. But ya know, alcohol is taxable thru the government....forget how it has the same potential side effects as any drug-when you put anything foreign in your body, you are taking a risk.

astralkid

I think there might be some emotional problems that come with prolonged use of E... This might include depression and ego trips, but nothing excessive like hysteria