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January 21st, 2008, 12:42 PM

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Canada Denies Its Gangs Supply Dangerous Brand of Ecstasy to U.S.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,324185,00.html

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VANCOUVER, British Columbia — Canadian police on Sunday disputed claims by the U.S. drug czar that organized crime rings in Canada are dumping dangerous, methamphetamine-laced ecstasy into the United States.

John Walters, who heads the White House Office of National Drug Control Policy, recently released a statement warning public health and safety officials of the dangers posed by turbo-charged ecstasy from Canada.

The head of the Royal Canadian Mounted Police's national drug branch said Sunday he did not know why Walters would issue the statement without checking facts with Canadian officials.

"I shook my head when I read the release that they put out," said RCMP Supt. Paul Nadeau.

Walters' office did not immediately return a call seeking comment Sunday.

The statement issued earlier this month warns public health officials about a "dangerous new drug threat coming from Canada." Walters said that progress in limiting ecstasy availability is in "jeopardy of being rolled back by Canadian criminal organizations."

Nadeau said there's nothing new about ecstasy being laced with methamphetamine or other stimulants and that it has been happening for the last decade.

He said that while the RCMP is concerned about drugs being smuggled into the United States, he disputes information in the release that he says is falsely attributed to the RCMP.

The statement said Canadian drug police estimated the production capacity of Canadian ecstasy laboratories at over two million tablets per week. "We have no idea where they came up with that," Nadeau said.

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January 21st, 2008, 03:33 PM	#2
deggs Hullaboarder Join Date: Feb 2005	you gotta love the media

January 22nd, 2008, 07:38 PM	#3
Berzerk Hullaboarder Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Phoenix, AZ	ahahahaha you damn canadians... first you make the 'crack' of marijuana according to the media... now you make the 'crack' of ecstasy.... when do the double-stack ketchup chips come out? couch potato's droppin' left and right... "Ohhhh goooodddd!!! cardiac arrrest!!! but im chewing sooooo hard!!" __________________ Arizona Happy Hardcore - Http://www.cheddarcore.com Cheddarcore Myspace - Http://www.myspace.com/cheddarcore

January 22nd, 2008, 09:51 PM	#4
EvoldicA Friendship Crew Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Bradenton, Floooridah	I'll take 2. smirk

January 22nd, 2008, 11:24 PM

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RCMP debunks claims Canada dumping 'extreme ecstasy' into U.S. market
2 days ago
Canadian Press

VANCOUVER - The head of the RCMP's national drug branch is debunking claims by the United States' drug czar, who claims organized crime rings in Canada are dumping dangerous, methamphetamine-laced "extreme ecstasy" into his country's illegal drug market.

Supt. Paul Nadeau said he doesn't know why John Walters, of the White House Office of National Drug Control Policy, would make such statements in a widely distributed news release without checking facts with Canadian officials.

"I shook my head when I read the release that they put out," said Nadeau, adding he's never heard of extreme ecstasy.

"That term is unknown to us, certainly in Canada, and I can tell you that I've spoken to law enforcement people in the U.S. and they've never heard of it either so it would appear that it's a term that somebody came up with in a boardroom in Washington, D.C."

The release has generated huge media buzz in the U.S., with some news outlets using names such as "turbo-charged ecstasy," which is supposedly flowing across the border from Canada.

In the release, issued earlier this month, Walters warns public health and safety leaders that more than 55 per cent of ecstasy samples seized in the U.S. last year contained meth, a stimulant that affects the central nervous system.

"This extreme ecstasy is a disturbing development in what has been one of the most significant international achievements against the illicit drug trade," Walters said.

"Cutting their product with less expensive methamphetamine boosts profits for Canadian ecstasy producers, likely increases the addictive potential of their product and effectively gives a dangerous 'facelift' to a designer drug that had fallen out of fashion with young American drug users."

Nadeau said there's nothing new about ecstasy - the so-called love drug that gained popularity during the 1990s rave scene - being laced with methamphetamine or other stimulants and that it's been happening for the last decade.

"According to our stats the presence of methamphetamines in ecstasy is dropping," he said, adding tests by the RCMP indicate that currently, about 35 per cent of ecstasy pills contain meth, down from 75 per cent several years ago.

"Why now do they feel the need to announce this to the world?" Nadeau said of the Office of National Drug Control Policy.

Walters' office did not return calls from The Canadian Press.

But John Carnavale, an economist who worked for four previous U.S. drug czars between 1989 and 2000, said Walters is "cherry-picking data" to blame Canada.

He said that's likely because of Canada's harm-reduction approach to dealing with drug addiction, compared with the "user accountability" model American drug czars have preached.

"It was news to me that Canada was allegedly emerging as the source of supply (for ecstasy). Mexicans have really dominated the market, given the data up to now," Carnavale said.

Walters' news release could actually create demand for a form of extreme ecstasy, Carnavale said from Gaithersburg, Maryland.

"If I was a meth dealer in Canada I would certainly rebrand mine to 'extreme ecstasy.' "

Nadeau said that while the RCMP is concerned about drugs being smuggled into the United States, he disputes information in the release that is falsely attributed to the force.

"The Royal Canadian Mounted Police (RCMP) estimates that the current combined production capacity of Canadian ecstasy laboratories exceeds two million tablets a week," it says.

"We have no idea where they came up with that," Nadeau said.

"In the final analysis this stuff is driven by demand," he said. "If the U.S. population has an insatiable appetite for this stuff somebody's going to be producing it for them so that's the part of the equation they never seem to talk about."

While Walters said in the release that ecstasy use had recently "plummeted" in recent years, Nadeau said that contradicts the statistics.

"If anything, in the last 10 years, synthetic drugs, whether they be ecstasy or meth, the demand for them has gone through the roof."

Scott Rintoul, spokesman for the RCMP's Drugs and Organized Crime Awareness Service in Vancouver, said there's no doubt Canada is a major synthetic drug supplier for the U.S. and other countries, with 65 per cent of the production happening in British Columbia, followed closely by Ontario.

He said that for years, producers made ecstasy from a powder imported from Europe, but that it has more recently been replaced with a cheaper liquid precursor from Asia.

January 23rd, 2008, 09:55 AM	#6
deggs Hullaboarder Join Date: Feb 2005	they could easily avoid having a drug problem altogether in either country by dealing with junkies and users with Singapore/Saudi Arabia style punishments and then the war on drugs would pretty much be over... just kidding... but yeah, drug are illegal. people that make drugs usually can't be counted on for proper quality control. the main reason e never appealed to me was because i always figured it was mostly laced with speed around here and it turns out i was probably right...

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